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	<title>Comments on: The Blue Obelisk Movement</title>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/06/30/the-blue-obelisk-movement-2/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egon -

I think the funding will come. The NSF has been recently talking strongly about open "cyberinfrastructure" which certainly implies some academic funding towards such activities. On the scale of a research grant, spreading Blue Obelisk and its components will be cheap. (Pressing CDs is a great idea and a few hundred isn't that expensive.)

Obtaining money from industry may also be possible -- a variety of open software development manages it. The question is how to gain the right contacts for this. I suspect time and better networking will help.

And of course constant discussions and presentations (like Peter describes above) are critical. I consider software development as "outreach" and just good for the community -- but I'm willing to talk software in addition to my key research. A point I try to make again and again is that Open Babel and other Blue Obelisk activities &lt;strong&gt;enhance productivity&lt;/strong&gt;. If we can spend 5% of our time to make the remaining 95% more productive, our core research always benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egon -</p>
<p>I think the funding will come. The NSF has been recently talking strongly about open &#8220;cyberinfrastructure&#8221; which certainly implies some academic funding towards such activities. On the scale of a research grant, spreading Blue Obelisk and its components will be cheap. (Pressing CDs is a great idea and a few hundred isn&#8217;t that expensive.)</p>
<p>Obtaining money from industry may also be possible &#8212; a variety of open software development manages it. The question is how to gain the right contacts for this. I suspect time and better networking will help.</p>
<p>And of course constant discussions and presentations (like Peter describes above) are critical. I consider software development as &#8220;outreach&#8221; and just good for the community &#8212; but I&#8217;m willing to talk software in addition to my key research. A point I try to make again and again is that Open Babel and other Blue Obelisk activities <strong>enhance productivity</strong>. If we can spend 5% of our time to make the remaining 95% more productive, our core research always benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Egon Willighagen</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/06/30/the-blue-obelisk-movement-2/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Egon Willighagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we need is funding to set up activities important to spreading our word. E.g. to make a live CD
with open source chemoinformatics software and data sets, which we can spread whenever we are on conferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we need is funding to set up activities important to spreading our word. E.g. to make a live CD<br />
with open source chemoinformatics software and data sets, which we can spread whenever we are on conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray-Rust</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/06/30/the-blue-obelisk-movement-2/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murray-Rust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presented Open Chemistry at two meetings - US goverment chemical databases (at Fredrick NCI) and also at School of Informatics Indiana University. Have got a good number of positive responses as well as the normal sceptics. Highlighted the Blue Obelisk at both.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presented Open Chemistry at two meetings - US goverment chemical databases (at Fredrick NCI) and also at School of Informatics Indiana University. Have got a good number of positive responses as well as the normal sceptics. Highlighted the Blue Obelisk at both.</p>
<p>P.</p>
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