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	<title>Comments on: The Blue Obelisk Movement</title>
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		<title>By: Blue Obelisk at the ACS Fall Meeting &#8216;06 &#187; geoff hutchison: blog</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/03/14/the-blue-obelisk-movement/#comment-83843</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Obelisk at the ACS Fall Meeting &#8216;06 &#187; geoff hutchison: blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Starting at last year&#8217;s American Chemical Society national meeting in spring 2005 in San Diego, CA, the Blue Obelisk movement of open chemistry was started. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Blue Obelisk Movement &#187; geoff hutchison: blog</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/03/14/the-blue-obelisk-movement/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blue Obelisk Movement &#187; geoff hutchison: blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I talked about the first informal meeting in March but things are becoming a little more organized this summer. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/03/14/the-blue-obelisk-movement/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

Great to see your comments. The blog is fairly new, so I'm still feeling my way about what I want to include here -- think of it an experiment of sorts. :-) I'm generally amazed by the amount of traffic it receives -- my &lt;a href="/gallery/molecules/" rel="nofollow"&gt;molecule pictures&lt;/a&gt; are quite popular, thanks to Google.

I'll definitely investigate Taverna more closely. Personally, I have several workflows designed for the UNIX environment which make my life easier when dealing with 100s to 1000s of computational results. But it's nice to see the beginnings of more general approaches.

And you're flattering me about "precisely defined" function of Open Babel. We're getting there, but any large codebase will have countless bugs. Prof. Donald Knuth, a famous CS professor, says "I can always take a program and cut out at least one line of code and fix at least one bug." I think the exciting part about "Blue Obelisk" is that there are &lt;strong&gt;multiple&lt;/strong&gt; open, reliable chemistry codebases for integrating all sorts of different chemical problems. Each has a niche in terms of project goals and use, but there's a large amount of sharing of code, ideas, and support.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>Great to see your comments. The blog is fairly new, so I&#8217;m still feeling my way about what I want to include here &#8212; think of it an experiment of sorts. <img src='http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;m generally amazed by the amount of traffic it receives &#8212; my <a href="/gallery/molecules/" rel="nofollow">molecule pictures</a> are quite popular, thanks to Google.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll definitely investigate Taverna more closely. Personally, I have several workflows designed for the UNIX environment which make my life easier when dealing with 100s to 1000s of computational results. But it&#8217;s nice to see the beginnings of more general approaches.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re flattering me about &#8220;precisely defined&#8221; function of Open Babel. We&#8217;re getting there, but any large codebase will have countless bugs. Prof. Donald Knuth, a famous CS professor, says &#8220;I can always take a program and cut out at least one line of code and fix at least one bug.&#8221; I think the exciting part about &#8220;Blue Obelisk&#8221; is that there are <strong>multiple</strong> open, reliable chemistry codebases for integrating all sorts of different chemical problems. Each has a niche in terms of project goals and use, but there&#8217;s a large amount of sharing of code, ideas, and support.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray-Rust</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/03/14/the-blue-obelisk-movement/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murray-Rust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks geoff
Only discovered this today - by Googling for "Blue Obelisk". Indeed I didn't know this existed.

Have just mentioned the Blue Obelisk on the taverna list. Taverna is a workflow tool and althohough originally developed for bioinformatics is completely general. We see it as an important tool for uniting the sort of approach that the Blue Obelisk represents. it's a unfying technology as it is paltform and OS dependent and allows people to integrate their applications without worrying about languages.

openbabel has a prominent place in our applications. It's an excellent example of a tool - precisely defined function, inputs and outputs. This is how chemoinformatics should be built.

P.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks geoff<br />
Only discovered this today - by Googling for &#8220;Blue Obelisk&#8221;. Indeed I didn&#8217;t know this existed.</p>
<p>Have just mentioned the Blue Obelisk on the taverna list. Taverna is a workflow tool and althohough originally developed for bioinformatics is completely general. We see it as an important tool for uniting the sort of approach that the Blue Obelisk represents. it&#8217;s a unfying technology as it is paltform and OS dependent and allows people to integrate their applications without worrying about languages.</p>
<p>openbabel has a prominent place in our applications. It&#8217;s an excellent example of a tool - precisely defined function, inputs and outputs. This is how chemoinformatics should be built.</p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: World Wide Molecular Matrix</title>
		<link>http://geoffhutchison.net/blog/archives/2005/03/14/the-blue-obelisk-movement/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>World Wide Molecular Matrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Open Access and the Chemical Semantic Web&lt;/strong&gt;

Peter Murray-Rust and Henry Rzepa
University of Cambridge and Imperial College

ACS, 2005-03-14, San Diego

The Semantic Web is becoming a reality
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<p>Peter Murray-Rust and Henry Rzepa<br />
University of Cambridge and Imperial College</p>
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<p>The Semantic Web is becoming a reality<br />
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